Monday, November 28, 2011

Did Chuck Phelps report the rape of Tina Anderson or "cover it up?"

Brooksley Belanger on cross examination of former officer Gagnon. 

Brooksley Belanger:One question: Did Phelps talk with Lt. Cross? 

Former officer Gagnon: Yes. 

Brooksley Belanger: Did Phelps report to DCYF? 

Former officer Gagnon: yes. 

Brooksley Belanger: no further questions.

by Amy Coveno / WMUR Reporter May 25 at 10:03 AM


Read more: http://livewire.wmur.com/Event/Day_3_Of_Ernest_Willis_Trial#ixzz1f3eVUmP9

Did Chuck Phelps "lie" about knowing anything about Dan Leaf?

It's a sort of convoluted twist, but the story is this: The people in the "Do Right BJU" group that Camille Lewis founded to attack Chuck Phelps are claiming that Phelps lied about not knowing that Dan Leaf was an abuser.


Chuck Phelps has never denied knowing Dan Leaf was convicted of child abuse. What Phelps stated was that Tina never came to  him to tell him Dan Leaf sexually abused her.


At Laurie own website, she presents sworn testimony where Chuck Phelps does say that he knew Dan Leaf had abused.


Wayne: Were you aware that Dan Leaf had abused the children?


Phelps: I knew that Dan was incarcerated for crimes against minors. Tina never told me her dad sexually abused her. 

Sunday, November 27, 2011

A litany of false claims against Pastor Chuck Phelps by DJ Forrester-Roberts Jordan at the "Do Right BJU" website

Written by: DJ Forrester- Roberts : “Chuck Phelps is a BJU alumni and pastored a church in NH where a 15 year old girl was raped and impregnated 13 years ago by a 32 (I think) year old man in the church (who had a wife and family).”

The victim in this case was a babysitter for the children of the man who raped her. He was 38. It didn’t happen “in the church.”


DJ Forrester- Roberts : Phelps handled it by making the girl get up in front of the congregation and apologize for being raped.

I’m assuming this was because the victim lied to Phelps about her continued involvement with the married man after she was raped the first time and then after she turned 16 (allowing him to take her out to dinner at the local hotel, continuing her driving lessons with him, allowing him in her home while her mother was at work) maybe he did ask her to confess to allowing a “compromising situation to occur.” That's what the letter she wrote said.


This event was also to solicit the prayers and support of the church family. Phelps has since said he wouldn’t allow the personal needs of a teenage to be presented publicly.


DJ Forrester- Roberts : He then sent her away to Colorado in an attempt to keep the NH police from getting involved.


That is completely false. Sworn testimony indicates that Chuck Phelps called police three times and he also contacted the New Hampshire department of children and family services. He also encouraged the victim’s mother to report the crime, even though the victim herself was against the assaults being reported. The police came to the mother’s work place. They interviewed the suspect. It was police who didn’t act, not Chuck Phelps.

Her mother expressed her inability to supervise her teen daughter due to having to work full time. Phelps suggested that the teen could live with a Christian family in Colorado during her pregnancy. The teen later asked to stay with this family in Colorado after her baby was born and continued to live with them until the foster father was transferred to another state.

DJ Forrester- Roberts : The rapist/pedophile was allowed to stay in the church for 13 years and was a member in "good standing".


Because he wasn’t indicted and obviously not convicted of a crime at the time, the church had no grounds to label the man and accuse him. Also, it should be noted that the man was not a pedophile. He raped a teen when she was 15 years and 8 months old. And contrary to the claims of Forrester- Roberts, the man left the church some years ago.


DJ Forrester- Roberts : Last year this girl, Tina Anderson, finally brought charges against her rapist and he was sent to prison. 20/20 did an entire show about it.

 A disgruntled former church member posted what he suspected about the situation on a Facebook website designed to falsely identify all independent Baptist churches as cults and child sex abuse rings. The founder of that website Jocelyn Zictherman, herself accused of being abusive and manipulative, http://thehidalgograincompany.wordpress.com/2011/09/07/whos-abusing-who/#comment-1581 phoned police about the Anderson case. It has been alleged that Zictherman also phoned in a false police report against a woman who disagreed with her on an internet forum. http://sharperiron.org/comment/30434#comment-30434

She’s also accused Dr. Bob Jones of being involved in suing her and implied that her life was in danger. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Independent-Fundamental-Baptist-IFB-Cult-Survivors-and-Their-Supporters/207805449251466


Anderson refused to speak to police 13 years ago. She changed her mind in 2010 and agreed to cooperate.

20/20 did include the Anderson situation in a recent show. As is the norm with the leftist media, many untruths were presented as “fact” about the Baptist faith. Elizabeth Vargas and 20/20 also lied and claimed that Anderson was fired from her job at an independent Baptist college when that was not true. Anderson nodded her head and agreed with Vargas when the “you lost your job” question was asked of her. http://ksblogs4u.blogspot.com/2011/11/different-stories-tina-told-about.html

Tina also swore under oath that she lost her job as a result of coming forward about the crime but in a published news interview and in her statement to police the year before Tina said she was resigning due to not wanting to be an IFB any longer.

DJ Forrester- Roberts : Chuck Phelps wasn't prosecuted for being the accessory to a crime because the SOL had run out.

Completely false and in our opinion grounds for a libel suit. Phelps was not in any way associated with what Ernie Willis did to Tina Anderson and called police 3 different times in regards to this situation when he found out four months later. He also called New Hampshire social services.



DJ Forrester- Roberts: Phelps, when questioned by 20/20, claimed the relationship was "consensual", ignoring the fact that there is no consensual relationship between a 15 year old girl and a 32 year old man. It's called statutory rape.

In regards to the fact that Tina Anderson consented to being in the company of Ernie Willis after she turned 16 (age of consent in NH), even though she knew it was wrong, Phelps is correct in using the term consensual.

When speaking of the rapes that occurred when Tina was 15, Phelps did report to the police that Anderson was raped.



DJ Forrester- Roberts : Chuck Phelps, after this controversial story came out was asked to sit on the Board of Director's at BJU. And that's wrong.

Maybe so, maybe not. But it’s definitely wrong to tell so many lies about the man and falsely accuse him of committing crimes.

DJ Forrester- Roberts : Phelps has never apologized or admitted he did anything wrong.

He has stated that he would not bring the personal needs of a teenager before a congregation if he had it to do over again.

DJ Forrester- Roberts: In conversations with some of us who've contacted him, he's been arrogant and sometimes downright mean.

He’s been attacked and lied about. His children have been threatened. It may be your opinion (and you don’t say if you talked to him) but most of us think he’s shown great grace with all he’s had to endure in the face of such attacks.


DJ Forrester- Roberts : So, it's pretty much, in my opinion, a case of people at BJU being a little concerned because this page is gaining in popularity and they want it shut down. I imagine some students and possibly BJU faculty and admins, are coming in here with fake accounts in an attempt to cast a bad light on this movement. Hope that helps:).

DJ Forrester-Roberts  is above accusing BJU faculty and administrators of forming false Facebook pages in order to make posts on the disgruntled BJU alumni page “Do Right BJU.” 

Forrester-Roberts  fails to report the near constant stream of actual BJU students who went to the page and asked questions and were summarily banned by the BJU alumi and others who own the “Do Right BJU” page. 

One man was banned from the “Do Right BJU” Facebook page for suggesting that everyone pray and fast for the situation. http://www.facebook.com/byronlam/posts/10150477667606253

Because that’s how they roll.

This was posted as truth by DJ Forrester-Roberts but it's almost completely false regarding Chuck Phelps

DJ Forrester- Roberts Jordon: Chuck Phelps is a BJU alumni and pastored a church in NH where a 15 year old girl was raped and impregnated 13 years ago by a 32 (I think) year old man in the church (who had a wife and family). Phelps handled it by making the girl get up in front of the congregation and apologize for being raped. He then sent her away. to Colorado in an attempt to keep the NH police from getting involved. The rapist/pedophile was allowed to stay in the church for 13 years and was a member in "good standing".
Last year this girl, Tina Anderson, finally brought charges against her rapist and he was sent to prison. 20/20 did an entire show about it. Chuck Phelps wasn't prosecuted for being the accessory to a crime because the SOL had run out.
Phelps, when questioned by 20/20, claimed the relationship was "consensual", ignoring the fact that there is no consensual relationship between a 15 year old girl and a 32 year old man. It's called statutory rape.
Chuck Phelps, after this controversial story came out was asked to sit on the Board of Director's at BJU. And that's wrong. Phelps has never apologized or admitted he did anything wrong. In conversations with some of us who've contacted him, he's been arrogant and sometimes downright mean.
So, it's pretty much, in my opinion, a case of people at BJU being a little concerned because this page is gaining in popularity and they want it shut down. I imagine some students and possibly BJU faculty and admins, are coming in here with fake accounts in an attempt to cast a bad light on this movement. Hope that helps:).